After ten minutes of meeting John Michael Schert, I asked him to be on the podcast. He didn’t even know I had a podcast, and I didn’t really know anything about him – I just knew that he was awesome.
In this episode, John Michael and I talk about how to get out of your own way, the impact of his mother coming out when he was a teenager, what he learned from being a dancer, and learning to give space to the unknown. Sound heavy? It sorta is. But it’s also one of my favorite episodes yet.
Here’s John Michael
John Michael on Instagram
The Economics Of Suspense via NYT
Chicago Booth School Of Business
Does Jesus Really Love Me?
Flow: The Psychology Of Optimal Experience
Treefort Music Fest
Trey McIntyre Project
Fattoush Salad via The Kitchn
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